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Post by Cupcakelvr on Mar 18, 2015 4:44:00 GMT
If someone were to make a Private Server using the JP client, what all would be needed besides translations (which should be relatively easy to do)?
So far I am guessing: SQL Setup Server Files Base Client
What else would be needed?
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Post by Ink on Mar 18, 2015 4:47:43 GMT
Not to be rude but I think you guys should really stop with this private server stuff, just play the Japanese server and adapt.
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Post by ✧‧˚Quon✰ on Mar 18, 2015 4:51:29 GMT
It'd be quicker for everyone to just stop with this private server stuff and learn how to play.
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Post by Cupcakelvr on Mar 18, 2015 11:14:09 GMT
No offense you two, but instead of being rude, you could answer the question. I actually am playing the Japanese server, but I am kinda tired of half the people not understanding me. I already have half of the translations done I just need to know what else I need to do, since sadly, I am a noob when it comes to reverse engineering. And before you say, "How are you tired of people not able to understand you, when you can translate the game?" well simple, people talk to me in broken engrish. I respond back in engrish. They go "I don't speaky engrish", yet they say this in engrish. I speak in Japanese, and since my Japanese isn't too great, they basically say back to me "Google translate nub" or " ?" "How do I know how how to translate from Japanese to English, if my Japanese isn't to great?" Oh, I am quite glad you were most likely just thinking that. Well, I do a rough translation, then pick the English words that make the most sense. Or I just do them all by memory since i've been playing the game since early 2009. "Why do I want to waste my life on a private server?" Well, to be honest, I know a lot of people that miss the game in EN. They literally stopped playing when Marvelous shut down the EN server because about 95% don't know Japanese. If you have any other questions, or want to continue telling me to not do something I want to do, then please leave a response here.
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Post by Foxnull on Mar 18, 2015 12:43:18 GMT
Alright alright let's stay cool everyone.
Anyway, hi there, welcome to the forum. I don't know much when it comes to reverse engineering or that sort of thing, but i think the idea means well, so hey why not? Knock yourself out. Hope it works out for you though, sorry i cant be of more help.
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Post by akashanotenshi on Mar 18, 2015 12:50:01 GMT
So much nope with this. Can't believe people as still bothering with this kind of stuff. The EN server is dead, period. That kind of experience is gone forever. Even if someone would succeed in pulling a PS, I doubt CAVE will react nicely to it. The same applies for translation patches. You shouldn't even be able to play the japanese server. CAVE simply doesn't bother in hunting foreign players, yet. You have no right to translate this game. You have no rights to put a PS. You have no rights to play the japanese server. Stop being spoiled brats and be glad you can play at all.
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Post by Foxnull on Mar 18, 2015 13:49:55 GMT
So much nope with this. Can't believe people as still bothering with this kind of stuff. The EN server is dead, period. That kind of experience is gone forever. Even if someone would succeed in pulling a PS, I doubt CAVE will react nicely to it. The same applies for translation patches. You shouldn't even be able to play the japanese server. CAVE simply doesn't bother in hunting foreign players, yet. You have no right to translate this game. You have no rights to put a PS. You have no rights to play the japanese server. Stop being spoiled brats and be glad you can play at all.
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Post by Cupcakelvr on Mar 19, 2015 2:27:32 GMT
So much nope with this. Can't believe people as still bothering with this kind of stuff. The EN server is dead, period. That kind of experience is gone forever. Even if someone would succeed in pulling a PS, I doubt CAVE will react nicely to it. The same applies for translation patches. You shouldn't even be able to play the japanese server. CAVE simply doesn't bother in hunting foreign players, yet. You have no right to translate this game. You have no rights to put a PS. You have no rights to play the japanese server. Stop being spoiled brats and be glad you can play at all. First off. Let's review all the Private Servers that are in existence. Such as Aura Kingdom, World of Warcraft, Maplestory, Runescape, Ect. The ONLY time one gets shut down, is if they violate certain things, like charging monthly and so on. Charging for AP items to keep the server running is fine, same with leveling, faction changes, race changes, and such. I will repeat myself. The ONLY thing that gets a server removed is charging monthly, daily, or yearly. Second. CAVE doesn't care. If they cared, they'd make the game regional, and make it so I can't download/sign up out of the region. If they cared, they would start banning all non-JP accounts. The only time they do care, is when morons make multiple accounts with the same IP address. How does one avoid this? Just do a US currency exchange with JP, and purchase a darn ticket. Third. I have all the rights in the world to translate whatever I feel like. Private Servers are in fact illegal, and sometimes can violate the ToS and EuLA, or whatever the else they have. But that doesn't stop them from being released anyways. Nor will it stop me from releasing mine. I also have all the rights in the world to play the JP server. So far there's nothing against it, and they're not taking action against anyone, except the stupid people.
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Post by Cupcakelvr on Mar 19, 2015 2:30:02 GMT
Alright alright let's stay cool everyone. Anyway, hi there, welcome to the forum. I don't know much when it comes to reverse engineering or that sort of thing, but i think the idea means well, so hey why not? Knock yourself out. Hope it works out for you though, sorry i cant be of more help. Thank you for being the only nice, and not rude person that I have encountered so far. I'm glad that you're a moderator. Even if I have to do the entire server myself it'll be released some day. I'll officially join later. Thank you for the welcome.
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Post by akashanotenshi on Mar 19, 2015 13:06:37 GMT
SMT Imagine, is a foreign service in a foreign country with their own people as the intended audience, and you claim to have rights to play? You don't. I don't, no one does. Only japanese people. We all are 2nd class citizens in this game, get used to it. CAVE doesn't care about foreign players yet, doesn't mean they won't change their minds if someone piss them off. @ Foxnull: This type of topic shouldn't even allowed. This forums is for people trying to play and enjoy the jp server, not for brats QQing about it and their people.
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Post by Foxnull on Mar 19, 2015 18:13:29 GMT
Alright alright let's stay cool everyone. Anyway, hi there, welcome to the forum. I don't know much when it comes to reverse engineering or that sort of thing, but i think the idea means well, so hey why not? Knock yourself out. Hope it works out for you though, sorry i cant be of more help. Thank you for being the only nice, and not rude person that I have encountered so far. I'm glad that you're a moderator. Even if I have to do the entire server myself it'll be released some day. I'll officially join later. Thank you for the welcome. Anytime kid. I just wish i wasn't packing up. But hey, thanks. I try to be optimistic.
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Post by ayserunia on Mar 23, 2015 23:44:14 GMT
You got it all but the thing is. where you gonna get those server files, i remember a rumor saying someone has it but it has alot of bugs like you can't go to a dungeon (getting DC)
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Post by Cupcakelvr on Mar 25, 2015 10:25:46 GMT
You got it all but the thing is. where you gonna get those server files, i remember a rumor saying someone has it but it has alot of bugs like you can't go to a dungeon (getting DC) Well, bugs can be fixed. :3 Hopefully I can find the guy that happens to already have them.
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koala
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Post by koala on Mar 26, 2015 7:11:48 GMT
I hope you are aware of what it takes to run a private server o: You need financial support for server hardware, skills to run the server itself smoothly. Setting up the server is just step one, next comes management, maintenance, development, all of which consumes a fat load of time, a large array of more skills needed, and for these things to have any meaning, you'd need a gamer base too, so advertisement is added to the list. Even in the case you break through the first stage; Set up the server and built a community, now you will need to keep that community happy and growing, or at the least staying. Without strong motivation and incentive, there is no way you or staff will be able to put up with that. Whatever you do for the community, unless there is just simply nothing to find fault in, everyone is happy and gets what they want, people are just hardwired to be ungrateful. Only the minority put up with shit, the rest will simply go ape-shit. Being the owner alone basically means a full time job with dubious prospects of actual monetary benefits. But hey, you might find the hidden entrepreneur within you. You could still have a job apart from managing the server, but then you'll need to manage two lives. Stress piles upon stress. Having staff means paying out wages, if you're aiming for a long living server. Having quality staff is a different matter altogether. Again, it's about incentive. In the end, being rich solves alot of things. My point is, running a game is a business. Before considering any of the legal issues, I just don't think you can make it past the starting line. While the english servers went down, CAVE is still going strong. If you think you can match that then by all means, I would love an english version of the game too. (Sorry about the rant )
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melvin
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Post by melvin on Mar 26, 2015 15:54:20 GMT
I hate how much criticism this was met with.
What he asked was what else would be needed. Nothing more. Answer the question or simply don't post, especially if you are going to insult. It's good that people want to build a private server, even if it would be difficult at this time.
Respect to you Foxnull, most mature person here.
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