melvin
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Post by melvin on Jun 11, 2015 16:42:12 GMT
So, some might not be familiar with the title, and would know it as something else. Yes guys, I am talking about hell - ahem - the Samael run. I tried asking around (sorry kawaii and Gesso), and even though I was provided with a guide (thank you), I couldn't seem to comprehend the instruction on the guide, which is why I am here, to reach out to you guys and ask the following: How do I do shinagawa catacombs gold, and get to a Samael boss, obtaining all the fruit I can on the way? Not spending CP on fruit by the way. PS. link to the guide is tinyurl.com/shinagoldstuff .
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Post by Ink on Jun 11, 2015 17:47:24 GMT
i did byakko's true route and it was the longest dungeon run i've ever been in (~1 hr)
the fruit kinda requires actual farming and it's not something you can just 'get all on the way' because they have the worst drop rates in the world
getting to samael requires skipping the last switch on the floor before the last floor i believe, i hit the switch and the boss turned out to be true byakko, i would need to confirm this, i can take you through the run and try to figure it out on the way
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Post by fatzip on Jun 11, 2015 22:13:11 GMT
It seems that you need to do the entire run again after that switch, in reverse, for sammy; I could be wrong though.
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Post by eldertwin on Jun 19, 2015 17:30:19 GMT
After spending a solid 3 hours fruitlessly seeking out Samael, I have a few observations:
There's a total of 6 floors (not counting the boss room). you either go Entrance->N1->N2->Depths->S2->S1->Entrance or Entrance->S1->S2->Depths->N2->N1->Entrance.
You can item mix 20 snow shards from Ice Caves with an Elementine to make an item that clears the restrictions on fire, ice, elec, and force affinities. This item affects both you and your partner and only wears off if you leave, logoff, or desummon your partner. You can add a blend etarna into the mix to get 8 of these items.
There's certain hallways of continuously respawning enemies. You need to obtain a colored tear like gem which is a slightly uncommon drop from the spawning enemies and offer it to the fountain to open the way forward. There seems to be some conditions for the fountain to appear. Clearing all the enemies seems to cause it to appear.
There's a few areas where you need to interact with certain fountains to open the path forward. These fountains don't require gems.
The Depths floor is unique in that it has three 9x9 rooms. you need to spell the letters; SAM 90 degrees rotated. See the JP wiki for the exact path through here. If you do it right, the enemy types should change before you leave the floor.
It seems that after you change the enemy type, four fountains (one each on N1,N2,S1 and S2) become active, offering 1000 mags to one of them cause several enemies to spawn. You can offer 1000 more mags after you clear the enemies to cause more to appear. Each fountain had a nearby door that I wasn't able to open. I cleared 3 waves near one and it still didn't open. I would guess that these 4 locked doors are in some way related to the Samael route.
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Post by Vincnette on Jun 19, 2015 22:00:33 GMT
Oh, about the fountain to which you offer magnetites: for each offerring there should be one wave of mobs spawning in another room, one of which is either a precocious camazotz or a precocious pa bil sag. They have a really, really low chance to drop the fruits needed to get Samael plugin, and offering the fruit to another fountain will cause a door to open and a debuff to be inflicted on you. It might tie in with the true Samael route but till now I'm just too worn out to actually try the thing
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Post by eldertwin on Jul 5, 2015 5:36:34 GMT
I just don't understand. I went through the entire run, farmed one of each of the fruits, opened the doors and drank from all four fountains but Samael STILL refuses to appear. Feeling rather disillusioned after this last run. Probably gonna just count him as lost
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