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Post by anko1400 on Dec 31, 2015 5:01:00 GMT
So (Since I personally don't feel like searching through this entire forums for another thread like mines) I would love to be able to understand most of what is going on in SMT nowadays (I'm pretty new to the scene of JP) and since I haven't played in almost 2 years I wanted to reach out to this community a bit. I'm wondering how many of you make Macca on the server? I'm only asking on the forums because I truly don't know and I really don't like pestering my clan too much with my nooby questions every 5 minutes. So if you can, please list any possible easy/hard/grindy doesn't matter to me! I just need a efficent way of making Macca since I'm just now starting off I'm constantly broke haha.
Thank you so much in advanced!
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Post by sainosarete on Dec 31, 2015 5:24:11 GMT
Well for starters - I started by spamming celu silver for cracked and whole gems - you can mix 5 cracked with 250 mags. This server drops more mags than it did on EN. Gems sell for 5k default.... can sell almost for 6k depending on alignment position in your aligned town. Without events - I tend to spam wildcat. But you can -also- trade Daily Mission card in for 3 keys for frost ace run, each run gives you at least 20 sapphires and a chance of frost ace pg or hee-ho belt. Which is an extra, strangely enough. And I think it's pretty decent for a starter extra. Some still farm raw materials, or level demons to crystalize and sell.. but I don't know how well that market runs as I've not tried it since EN. EVENTS! These're always good for netting some cash. The current event is lovely. You do 3minute runs (may be harder for a fresh character, unfinished build ... or half decent gear). You can get 10-25 gems. Rosary/elemental devil force orb. The demons from the runs drop tokens, these tokens can be exchanged for envelopes in the offering box area. It also has a chance of spawning demons (5 if you put 1 token in, like 30 if you put 5), each dropping envelopes. Green - loop orbs (used in devil force), essence of yetzirah. Yellow - macca, kreuv Red - mags, pure mags
And I forget which gives which... but I know they have random chance of Enhanced Garuda plugin item, an epitaph, and a dsoul.. you might see the epitaph/dsoul around bazaars lately for that reason. Or more of the rosary/elemental devil force orb thing I mentioned.
And then there is dark babel runs... I know the mara run and metatron run have chance of dropping things that you can sell for nice macca. Earring was like 50mil last I checked, back item was like 150mil more or less.
And masakado runs - they have a chance of giving weapon in the lootbox at the end. Gun is like 60-90mil, melee sword is like 80-120mil, mage sword is like anywhere in the crazy price of 120-200m in bazaars (though I commonly see the 200m ones rot in the bazaars).
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Post by anko1400 on Dec 31, 2015 6:50:17 GMT
Well for starters - I started by spamming celu silver for cracked and whole gems - you can mix 5 cracked with 250 mags. This server drops more mags than it did on EN. Gems sell for 5k default.... can sell almost for 6k depending on alignment position in your aligned town. Without events - I tend to spam wildcat. But you can -also- trade Daily Mission card in for 3 keys for frost ace run, each run gives you at least 20 sapphires and a chance of frost ace pg or hee-ho belt. Which is an extra, strangely enough. And I think it's pretty decent for a starter extra. Some still farm raw materials, or level demons to crystalize and sell.. but I don't know how well that market runs as I've not tried it since EN. EVENTS! These're always good for netting some cash. The current event is lovely. You do 3minute runs (may be harder for a fresh character, unfinished build ... or half decent gear). You can get 10-25 gems. Rosary/elemental devil force orb. The demons from the runs drop tokens, these tokens can be exchanged for envelopes in the offering box area. It also has a chance of spawning demons (5 if you put 1 token in, like 30 if you put 5), each dropping envelopes. Green - loop orbs (used in devil force), essence of yetzirah. Yellow - macca, kreuv Red - mags, pure mags And I forget which gives which... but I know they have random chance of Enhanced Garuda plugin item, an epitaph, and a dsoul.. you might see the epitaph/dsoul around bazaars lately for that reason. Or more of the rosary/elemental devil force orb thing I mentioned. And then there is dark babel runs... I know the mara run and metatron run have chance of dropping things that you can sell for nice macca. Earring was like 50mil last I checked, back item was like 150mil more or less. And masakado runs - they have a chance of giving weapon in the lootbox at the end. Gun is like 60-90mil, melee sword is like 80-120mil, mage sword is like anywhere in the crazy price of 120-200m in bazaars (though I commonly see the 200m ones rot in the bazaars). Ah I see... Celu is unbearably long though... I could try a shot at farming it. What would you recommend for a starter set for a demon user? If so, how much would it cost regularly?
My problem is that my character is brand new and I can't seem to afford the ESSENTIALS for demon users (nib ring at most, demon boosting gear... etc..) and without macca... well you know.
Starting off new is looking very very hard to do.... lol.
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Post by sainosarete on Dec 31, 2015 7:46:34 GMT
Yup yup, though if you have clannies/friends spamming the event whom don't mind ya tagging along, its a good way to get gems and the occasional token (though deadly if the spawns go after you/AoE).
I still have my starter set, I can't find what I need to improve. I have blue bridal, which I seen for around 30-40mil. Then theres the fools pieces which vary 4-8mil a piece, more or less depending how badly the person wants to get rid of it. Nibel I seen for 1.5mil-2mil recently but sometimes I see it for 5mil. -30% CD pipe/gun we had on EN server..I mostly saw around 5mil each (dunno if this is still the price since masakado weapons have -50% cooldown) Thriller pieces are also relatively close to fools pieces. Fools has the "0" in the name if you haven't seen it in awhile... the SI crystals are more common for fools though. I've seen Young Soul for 20mil. Last i was aware symbol set was 60mil, betrayed symbol 70-80mil. But I haven't seen any in that price range as of recent. Probably due to smaller supply.
Edit: I also started as enhancer/demon user!!! So I did need much help in the beginning, and I was having fun returning to SMT that I didn't care how long it took to get back to where I was on EN!
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Post by eldertwin on Dec 31, 2015 18:52:15 GMT
Greetings there Anko, and welcome to the Imagine JP servers ^^
Unfortunately my high luck tends to distort my view of what's feasible for farming and what's not so I'll skip that and try and provide other information that might be helpful:
EXP - you can give the Thoth in babel or H3 Yagi plates to increase any unlocked exp of your choice up to a max of class 5. Yagi plates are obtained from the yagi in the cathedral by trading OOPTHS. This cuts down the preliminary grind tremendously. XP - the primary currency of xp these days are green apples found at the end of most dungeons. They can be traded in at Vivian for xp for either you or your partner. The rate is 100k xp per 10 apples. For reference, Celu gold gives 2450 apples. Items - The yagi boy located by Snakeman in H3 and near the command room in babel will give some pretty nice convenience items if you speak to him after finishing certain acts such as aphros, xp and exp incenses etc. He will also give you a stat buff for half an hour. You can only redeem one prize per day so keep checking back with him. There's no risk of missing anything so feel free to advance through as many acts as you want. More Items - Talking to the Yagi girl located in the center of H3 or babel will allow you to run Destiny. Destiny is an any level 5 minute run that has a chance of netting you a random item (which may be useful, decent, or worthless). It can only be ran once per hour, but its fairly nice for starting players. The yagi loli will also give you a stat buff once per day at the end of your first run. Even More Items - upon hitting certain levels, the DCO shop (similar to the comp shop) will offer free gift boxes with various items in them. Unlike the Yagi shota's items, these gift boxes have a 1 week time limit to claim them so be sure to grab them quickly.
since you're going for demon enhancer, I would recommend focusing your efforts on your demon of choice (once you've finished your expertise and cleared up to act 16 of course). Even without gear, a full R8R8 mitama'd demon with a good skill set should have little trouble running a celu gold run or doing a side in Mirage gold.
The current event run is really good for sp at around 2k sp per 3 minutes (may need to find a soloer to tag along with). Think you need to finish the WC quest to access it though. Coincidentally, the yagi boy will also give you a day long sp incense once you finish this quest so try and make use of it before the event ends).
If you're having troubles finding runes for rebirthing, you can talk with Saian down at the docks. She'll trade any medium rune for 2 mag pressors (you can clear all the way up to R6 with medium runes). The current and previous events have introduced an almost ludicrous amount of mags into the market so they shouldn't be too hard to accumulate (if you can track me down I'll gladly give 1k or so pressors from my ~20k stock)
That's all the information I can think of atm. Hope ta see ya in game
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Post by savail on Jan 1, 2016 3:50:20 GMT
I recently relocated from CuChu to Cerberus because I wanted to bug a friend. Cerb prices are stupidly high in comparison for a lot of things, and I was being lazy, so I bought a few CP things that I knew sold quick and then marked them down heavily for quick macca.
What I used to do on CuChu though was to farm up Oopths and sell them in multiples of 10 in bazaars. This has actually worked better on Cerb than it ever did on CuChu because of the larger population. Just put them in at around 100k a pop (1 mil for a stack of 10), and they sell pretty well. You can mark them lower to sell them even faster. Like someone above said, they are used to avoid grinding expertise (up to Class 5), so established (or lazy/both) peoples like to buy them to avoid gathering them up themselves. Sugi Bronze is easy to spam on a mage, so even if you're not planning to go that route, a quickish way to grind those is to unlock the "raise Destro to class 2" quest from the DB with the Pixie outside of H3. Raise Destro to C2 using Oopths and pour all your points into Magic. Spam the ever-loving Hell out of Sugi Bronze, making sure to loot all the rooms for broken gems and sell for profit. When you're completely finished, you can just Lethe away the Destro with either the quest rewards from the DB or from the Magic Shop (the water/bottle/hourglass now go up to 79, along with the points in magic, so you don't have to worry so much about level for that).
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Post by blazbluehero on Jan 2, 2016 17:27:37 GMT
I also think that Shibuya Quartz Gold is still farmable.
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