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Post by dukeeligor on Mar 25, 2014 17:02:07 GMT
I'm trying to get one of their plugin and I was wondering which one i should choose. from what I've seen, Lachesis have the best features with greatest wit but she only learn support spells, atropos know all the -dyne spells and other powerfull spells like hamaon and mudoon and have a +25% elemental, clotho is good for Healing and even know some attack spells. So which one do you think is the best?
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Post by kiha on Mar 26, 2014 7:08:46 GMT
When it comes to demon, it usually falls back to your preferences. However, if I may add, among all the fate sisters, Lachesis has the best resistance against ailments (nulls expel, magic, nerve, mind; she nulls death after mitama). If you put that aside and looking for high spell caster, then its Atropos you are looking for. The 25% boost to all elements is good considering if you wanna give her all 4 elemental spins. Meanwhile clotho comes in handy if you are looking for a healing demon I guess. However, all 3 of them should excel as a caster as all of them have Technician features. The difference might be the amount of spell they have.
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Post by dukeeligor on Mar 26, 2014 20:20:28 GMT
Thank you for your answer I think I'm going to choose Lachesis, I already have a Dawon with the 4 elemental spins and a Lilith with the 4 cannons so i don't really need Atropos. Clotho Healing spell could be really useful but these spells usually have high MP cost and Lachesis have 0MP cost. Now I must think which skills I will give her, maybe magic blast, vamp cyclone, mediarahan, samarecarn, megidolaon, what else could i give her ?
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Post by kiha on Mar 27, 2014 5:28:42 GMT
If you consider her features, +30% death/expel, then perhaps you would wanna give her shining eye.
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Post by dukeeligor on Mar 27, 2014 22:01:49 GMT
it's a very good skill: 100% stone and 18% instant death, yes, I think i'm going to make her learn this one does the 30% death bonus also raise the chances of instant death or just the damages? that make 6 skills, maybe i'll add some passive skills, shot booster, satisfaction or overkiller
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Post by kiha on Mar 28, 2014 4:04:22 GMT
Only the damage, as far as I'm aware
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 20:17:06 GMT
Also, vamp cyclone is 1)cls-r based, and 2)terrible (mod 90, short range). I can't recommend putting it on any demon unless you need it for the hp regen in wc.
My experience with spell demons is generally that--unless they have a tiny base mp pool like Odin/Crisis/Arachne/Moh--if you've done at least r6 wyrd, you're not using chiaki, and you don't *only* use megis, mp cost is basically irrelevant. Plus, heals don't cost very much.... In any case, it's not like you have to use a bead every time you use a skill, like it is with phys demons without 0hp cost.
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Post by fuki on Apr 27, 2014 10:02:12 GMT
I am not sure if this is any help but this is what I have done for mine.
Clotho - Mainly healing and support
Atropos - Mage demon with AOE dynes and megis.
Lachesis - A 4 cannon demon with her nice cool downs. :3
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Post by kerykeion8 on Apr 28, 2014 19:15:22 GMT
I am not sure if this is any help but this is what I have done for mine. Clotho - Mainly healing and support Atropos - Mage demon with AOE dynes and megis. Lachesis - A 4 cannon demon with her nice cool downs. :3 Cooldowns are almost irrelevant for cannons ._. It would be better to have a demon who lowers incant for those. If you wanted one of the three Moirae sisters to use, I would recommend Atropos for it :/ The elemental boost she gets would cause the cannons to do more damage than Lachesis, and since they cost less mp than madynes or megis, her mp pool will be much happier XD. (Atropos has technician too so XD she would be on par with Lachesis there.) Atropos beats out Lachesis for elemental damage, but if you want the sustainability to be spamming madynes and megis, Lachesis would win there. I personally chose Lachesis for that reason. In my opinion if you are just starting, she might be easier to use since you could spend the money rebirthing her into the damage stat boosting ones rather than need to spam into wyrd for the mp pool. Overall you could make both work with enough rebirths and things, so it really comes down to personal opinion and what you want early on.
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Post by fuki on Apr 28, 2014 19:31:33 GMT
Thanks for the advice, I guess I got the wrong info from a friend that it was incant and not cooldown, thanks for that!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2014 17:14:40 GMT
Cannon CD matters if your incant is already first rate and you are fighting something like Asta or Meta that needs cannon spam. OTOH in those cases reflect-/aggro-survivability takes priority over CD, so the ideal choices are Hecate/Nyx/Void. AND it's not like we have any diasporas going atm. For applications you'd be facing now, Atropos is ideal for cannons and Lachesis is ideal for megis.
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Post by fuki on Apr 29, 2014 18:05:50 GMT
Thanks for the advice MissOrder, I will be focusing on Hecate at the moment as I am currently in the works of making one pure cannon anyways. ^^ I understand that but given the time it takes to get all rb's and stuff. Which is why it's one of my (on the side when bored as hell) projects. ^^ Advice is deeply appreciated and thank you very much again. ^^
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2014 8:14:56 GMT
As long as you're asking my advice: best final path for cannon spam is Nauthiz, not Laguz. Significantly better incant reduction (TDC for Hecate displays 57% instead of 45%! Better than Eoh!), 8 more crit, CD reduction just a tiny bit less, and only 11 less stat (adjusted). 11 stat sounds like a lot, but If you're specifically talking Meta/Asta, it's comparatively easy to max out damage per hit, and getting as many hits in per second is what's most important. Int/speed is the *only* way to get to the higher reaches of incant reduction (since everything else just multiplies rather than adding), and gear is good at damage/cd. OTOH, if you're going for other applications where you're not going to be capping all the time, Laguz is nice!
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